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Member Since:

Feb 02, 2014

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Childhood: I tagged along with my Dad and older brothers to many local fun runs. Did the SLC Winter series (when it was in South Jordan) a few times. Won the Governer's Cup (1 mile kids run) one time. Niavely thought I was the fastest kid in the state.

Jr High: I realized I was far from the fasted kid in the state or even my school. Ran Track and XC every year but had a love/hate relationship with running.

High School: I was hugely inspired by the top runners at Taylorsville HS, Adam Stark and Teren Jamesen, who were both top runners in the state and recieved scholarships to run at the U of U (before the men's program was cut...thanks title 9). As a Junior, my love/hate relationship with running turned to pure love as I discovered what it really meant to train consistently and see myself improve.

HS PRs

State XC course at sugarhouse 16:10 (35th overall--with Bingham as the #1 high school in the nation, there was tons of depth in 1996).

1600-4:46 

3200-10:15

Adult Running:

I was not fast enough to recieve any scholarships, so I didn't run competetively in college. Also, I had a naggin hamstring injury for several years after High School which prevented me from real training. I just did basic 20-35 mpw. Eventually, if figured out how to rehab my hamstring, and started training again. My first really good race was the Salt Lake Classic 10k in 2004. I ran in 33:33 and outkicked Sasha (this is probably the reason Sasha thinks I have a good kick. Based on all the times I have been out-kicked, I'm not so sure).

PRs:

Mile--4:43--as a lone time trial on UNLV track while on vacation in 2006. (I haven't done a 1-mile race since High School).

5K--15:17--DaperDays 2012

10k--30:58 (aided)--DesNews 2009

1/2 M--1:09:16--Salt Lake Marathon and Half M. 2009

Marathon--2:27:30--Chicago 2009.

 

 

 

 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

I have been in an injury cycle for about 18 months. I want to finally have the PATIENCE to SLOWLY build up my training, so that when I get to decent mileage, I won't be injured.

Since I am now 35, I think I will be satisfied just to not slow down. Although, if my training went perfectly, I know I am capable of more PR's, but getting perfect training is not always possible.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Continue to be a local competetive runner for as long as I can. Continue to find enjoyement in training and racinge even when my PRs are a distant memory.
 

Personal:

I run for the Wasatch Running Center team. They have gratiously supported me with free gear and store discounts for many years. They Rock!

I have been married since the end of 2004. I have two children. We may have more kids in several years if/when life gets a little less hectic.

I am a big fan and follower of professional running. Our sport has a phenomenal level of participation right now. I think the quality of our sport could be improved if the average runner was more aware of the professional sport of athletics/running.

My favorite professional runner is Kenenesia Bekele. I hope he can return to form and dominate the roads during his 30's. I daydream about him also returning to the track just once or twice to beat a particularly overated sit and kick runner. My other favorite runner is Chris Solinsky. He and I are about the same size, so I was super happy when he was the first non-African born runner to break 27 minutes for 10K. I hope he also can salvage the remaining years of his career.

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To start off, I need to explain that this year I am logging my running in terms of time instead of distance. This helps me to stay relaxed during training runs because I tell myself I have to run for "X" number of minutes whether I run fast or slow. When I run with a distance goal in mind, I can't help but speed up so I can get the run over with sooner. Since my goal this year is to patiently increase my training to a decent level again, this is the right approach for me right now. When I look back at my training in the past, I spent most of '07 and '08 doing relaxed/patient mileage building, and then I had good consistently high mileage (60-80 mpw) during 2009 and 2010. I made the mistake at the end of 2010 of breaking the 100 mpw barrier without spending enough time in the 80-90 mpw first. I have been in an injury cycle ever since then. I would love to be the type of runner that can run 120 mpw (the time I did run in the 100 mpw range was the most enjoyable time of my life) but I have to accept that "durability" is my weak point.

On Monday, I did LSD for time of 1:48:xx. Ran fast for 5 minutes at the end. Felt good the whole time. None of the usual aches (left knee, right foot, left tibia) showed up at any time during the run. I had a head cold all last week, so I left the house with the option to go for just an hour if I still felt conjested while running. Thankfully, I think I am pretty much over the cold. Now if our 7 month old boy could get over the cold too, then my wife an I could have a decent night of sleep instead of getting up multiple times in the night to comfort him after he has a coughing fit.

During January, I have run about 4:30-5:00 hours per week (probably about 35-45 mpw). I was hoping to fit a 5:30 week in between the two SLC winter series races, but the head cold (and lack of sleep) forced me to adjust my plans. I know that the guys I want to be competetive with are double or tiple my mileage, and that tempts me to force my mileage higher. However, I have done that many times in the past, only to end up injured. One reason I have been hesitant to post on this blog in the past is because I don't want to reveal just how low and pathetic my mileage is. Right now, I'm trying to have the maturity to not care how I compare to the other guys, and just to do what I know is the right approach for the runner that I am.
 

Comments
From Trevor Baker on Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 10:55:43 from 155.98.164.38

Awesome approach. I think once you are able to keep the aches and pains under control you'll be able to gradually increase your training to compete with those you want to. I like your approach. I've known too many runners than attack training and their seasons and races are short lived. You'll be in good shape in no time.

From Josh E on Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 11:22:55 from 205.235.104.4

Welcome to the blog and good luck with your training.I am a fellow THS grad - class of 95. I ran through 11th grade then called it quits...

BTW - got Goucher on the brain for some reason. That would've been inspring. We ran with Adam Stark!

From Jake K on Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 11:39:12 from 159.212.71.69

Good to see you on here Nate. We've usually been doing longer runs from Highland on Saturdays, and I am a big proponent of easy runs being EASY paced... so join us sometime when you are feeling ready. I think it will be a pretty regular thing throughout the spring.

From nathan hornok on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:07:02 from 75.169.184.190

Josh E. yes I meant to write Adam Stark, not Goucher. Ha ha. Of course, I did read about Goucher in a High School XC magazine and was inspired by him too.

From nathan hornok on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:08:38 from 75.169.184.190

Jake, thanks for the Long run invite. I would love to make it one of these weeks. What time do you start and how far do you usually go?

From fiddy on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:35:46 from 155.101.96.139

I can run 80-90 mile weeks pretty easily. Everytime I creep into 100+ mile territory something bad happens.

From fiddy on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:38:50 from 155.101.96.139

Also, you can post your runs in "Badger Miles". Wisconsin athletes just divide their run time by 7 to get the mileage. You might want to divide by 7.5 or 8 as you are not a 13:30 5k runner.

From Jake K on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:43:55 from 159.212.71.69

Nate - we usually get started around 8-9am, depending on what people have going on. A lot of times we'll do a loop if some people want to go shorter, and then anyone going longer just adds on. This week is the SLC 10K, but next weekend I'm sure we'll do a longer run.

From RileyCook on Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 14:07:10 from 172.56.8.10

Welcome Nate. It's good to see you on the blog.

Mileage is tricky and it takes control and discipline to raise it. You're on the right track with your approach.

I was a 40 miles a week guy in 2011 and I've just slowly built up a little at a time. In 2012 I was a 50 miles a week guy and last year I averaged 72. I have had some nagging injuries along the way but nothing serious. Steady and consistent is the key. Just a little at a time and if the body says no more, then back off a bit and level off until the body is ready to increase again.

I'm still waiting for my body to say it's ready for 100 as I've never had 100 in a week. But it's not quite there yet, very close but just not ready.

But as long as you avoid trying to keep up with the Jones's on mileage, the blog is great and you receive amazing support and advice from others. It will help you become the runner you want to be.

From Glory in the long run on Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 00:33:47 from 174.23.179.128

Here's the thing little bro (ha, that's funny), mileage is as individual as the individual. One of coach Bowerman's greatest accomplishments in his mind was getting a guy to run a 4 minute mile on just 30 miles a week. He knew this guy was a good runner, he just had to find the right training. Imagine that! Bowerman is known for bringing Lydiard's high mileage schemes to America, yet he knew training must be individualized and not comparative.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 13:21:41 from 69.28.149.129

Running 100 mpw is like driving 100 mph. You cannot do it safely just anywhere and in any conditions. You need a straight road, good surface, good visibility, vehicle in good condition, and not too many cars around. And you need to have your eyes 100% on the road.

For a runner, this translates into good sleep, good diet, low-stress life, and having a certain level of fitness already that is achieved through gradually increasing the volume. You cannot get sloppy in your recovery in between the runs, or you pay the price! Basic common sense principles that too many runners somehow manage to neglect.

Perhaps because while it takes only roughly twice the amount of actual running time it takes 10 times the level of training discipline to properly handle 100 mpw vs only 60. You cannot go to bed late. You cannot work an extra hour. You cannot eat certain foods and there are some foods that you do have to eat. Some runners cannot go without an afternoon nap. Sometimes you may be as little as one argument away from overtraining - adrenaline rush at the wrong time disrupts the recover and the straw breaks the camel's back. And once you cross that red line, months of training go down the drain.

The key to success in high mileage is to imagine yourself driving at the speed in miles per hour equal to the number of miles per week, the amount of focus and precaution it would take to do it safely, and approach the training with the same attitude.

From Jake K on Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 13:27:16 from 159.212.71.199

That's a really good analogy, Sasha. I like it. Very true - common sense.

Although I can't imagine driving 100mph b/c I'm fairly certain my jeep would explode if I tried to push it past 85 :-)

From Tom Slick on Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 09:26:25 from 69.171.160.186

Great 10K run and great account of your race with a shadow!

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